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| What should you know about finding place to stay in Bangkok ? |
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Determining where to live while in Bangkok is one of the most important decisions you will make. While many expatriates on a good salary or a package that includes the boss forking out for the rent can virtually pick and choose without the more prosaic considerations of how much it will cost, most of us do not.
If you are new to Bangkok and without a lot of time to find the ideal home, it is probably best to find somewhere adequate to begin with, try to obtain a short-term renewable lease (just in case) and begin searching for a place that suits in your own time.
Many expats settle for the Sukhumvit or Silom areas because of the quality of accommodation and convenient transport, shopping and other facilities. But in these areas, you will be paying for the privilege.
On the low end of acceptable, a one-bedroom, half-decent apartment in a reasonable complex can go for as little as Bt5,000 to about Bt20,000 a month, with the cheaper of these deals being harder to find. Prices then climb and climb. If you like a bit of space, maybe an extra room for a study and decent furniture included, then prices will begin at about Bt35,000. Large three bedroom apartments of about 1,200 to 1,500 square feet range from about Bt45,000 to Bt55,000.
With these sort of prices, the apartment complex will probably have a decent swimming pool, fitness centre and a small convenience store.
Standard leases are generally for one year, with the equivalent of two months rent as a deposit and one month's rent in advance.
Charges for electricity, water and telephone are commonly channelled through the condo or apartment management and a surcharge for each is added. Surcharges vary from place to place. Check around to see what rates are acceptable to you. If you rent, for example, a Bt25,000-a-month condo, don't expect much change from Bt40,000. In some places, bills from utility companies are sent directly to the tenant, so there are no management surcharges.
Rents for apartments and condos further down Sukhumvit, from Thonglor onward, tend to be cheaper, although the quality is sometimes lacking. However, adequate condos and apartments in areas such as Thonglor, Ekamai, Prakanon, On Nut, and beyond can be had for Bt10,000 or less.
Head even further east along Sukhumvit to Udom Suk or Bangna areas and you can pick up one- and two-bedroom condos in pleasant complexes for Bt7,000 to Bt12,000.
Areas such as Phetburi and Phayathai tend to have apartments and condos that offer the same convenience as the lower end of Sukhumvit, but at rents around 25 per cent to 30 per cent less. But if you are in search of real bargains and are hardy enough to handle to commute if you work in the city, areas in greater Bangkok offer extremely good value.
The pre-Asian finance crisis real estate boom left a glut of empty townhouses and free-standing houses in the outskirts of Bangkok , with many owners more than eager to rent at knockdown prices. In these areas, notably Bangna-Trat, a furnished two- or three-bedroom townhouse, with furniture and air-conditioners can be rented for as little as Bt5,000 a month. Large free-standing houses, with four bedrooms and big gardens go for between Bt15,000 and Bt20,000.
Also worth exploring are the some of the peaceful pockets of back-soi Bangkok that have escaped the bulldozers. I recently spotted a large three-bedroom house with a garden tucked away in a very quiet area only 100 metres off a main road in the Phetburi area for Bt18,000 a month. Across the road was a two-storey, two-bedroom, semi-detached apartment going for the same price. If this apartment was in the expensive part of Sukhumvit, it would be renting for three times that amount.
Finding places like these rely more on luck and legwork more than anything else. If you know what office you are based in, it makes things easier and you could start by looking for places nearest to work.
English-language newspapers carry classified ads for rentals most days, but most tend to be aimed at the expatriate market, so prices are inflated.
Many landlords post “for rent” signs in English (a sign that foreigners are welcome) on utility poles or fences of the house or apartment building. Some don't – and leave it up to you to find out if a place is for rent. If you see an apartment building that you like the looks of, go inside and asked if they are any units for rent. Chances are there will be. Also, chances are the landlord will be asking above market price, so be prepared to bargain. Also make sure you get a rundown of management fees, utility surcharges and other tacked-on extras.
The same applies to houses. If you see a house that looks well maintained but empty, ask the neighbours who owns it, get the phone number of the owner, call, and make the case that renting the place to you is a good idea.
By Phil Macdonald.
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| How to choose the right apartment ? |
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Fortunately for the would-be-tenant, there are an increasing number of apartments, serviced apartments and condominiums being built in Bangkok . As well as offering more choice, this should ultimately mean more competitive pricing too, though admittedly there's no sign of it yet. For now though, it most definitely means increased options – so many in fact that would-be tenants should easily find an apartment that suits their every need.
In the meantime, check out the following factors. Many may not seem important prior to the move, but beware! A small thing like insufficient lighting might make all the difference to your peace of mind.
The location is probably the first thing to look at. It doesn't matter how nice the apartment is if it means spending hours on Bangkok 's busy streets unnecessarily, or if it is hours away from often-frequented social clubs, not to mention your place of work. Also, it needs to be quiet enough to be relaxing, yet not cut off from the rest of the city.
f you are already living in an apartment or in the market for one, you have probably been told more times than you care to remember how important it is to the success of your venture in Bangkok that your residence is close to a BTS skytrain or MRT subway stations. Make sure your apartment has excellent mass transit connections, because these can only get better.
The price Check for any hidden costs. Some apartments include electricity and other utilities, some do not. You'd better carefully check the following major items before making a decision, whether the rates are included maid cleaning, cable TV, water, electricity, internet and the most important thing is the rates are nett inclusive of VAT or Service Charges or not.
The convenience of living next to a skytrain station or within prime areas usually comes only at a price. You might actually find it cheaper (even with the added transport costs) to live further away. Some Serviced Apartments provide shuttle bus services to the skytrain or subway station.
The interior – Most mid to high-end apartments in Bangkok are furnished to a very high standard, and most landlords or apartment managers are happy to make changes or improvements before you move in. Do make sure, however, that a good maintenance service is provided, and that renovation is an ongoing thing rather than a one-time-only deal.
Facilities – Most of the serviced apartments in Bangkok have amazing facilities, some even have 5-star services. Make sure that yours has amenities that suit your family's lifestyle as well as your own. And that includes opening hours of, say, the gym or pool. One businesswoman we spoke to was unhappy about the gym hours. She usually only got home from the office after 9.00 p.m. – the same time the gym closed.
Cooking enthusiasts should check out the kitchen carefully. Many Studio and One Bedroom Apartments only provide bachelor kitchens, though some do run to more extensive facilities.
Security is another important factor, and should be checked carefully before making a choice. Some apartments are heavy on security, while others only seem to be.
One man we spoke to enjoyed having his guests announced upon arrival; another complained that his apartment “just let anyone in”. It's always a good sign if the security guards take a close look at you as you enter the main gate.
The population in the apartment block, though not usually spoken about, is also very important. If you are planning on making some friends there, you need to be amongst people you like, or more importantly, who speak your language. Often, one nationality or another heavily populates apartments. Some attract mainly Asians, while others attract more westerners. Still others have a nice healthy mix. One tenant told us that he didn't stay long in his apartment as his child was unable to make friends: he couldn't communicate with the other children.
The environment is important too. Especially for tenants staying on the lower floors, a surrounding garden often means the scent of flowers and birdsong in the morning. It makes for a pleasant start to the day. Meanwhile, staying close to the swimming pool might mean heavy whiffs of chlorine, not to mention loud noises from children, in the afternoon.
The view – Don't always let yourself be persuaded by the brochure when choosing an apartment, especially when it comes to the view. A river view is not always a good thing, especially when it is a dirty river you're talking about (unless of course your apartment is high enough not to see the dirt).
While still on the subject of the view, do check the windows. Many of us like a bit of fresh air occasionally, and yet some of the high-rise blocks have permanently locked windows – for safety, we were told.
Before making a choice, be sure to visit the apartment twice: once in the daytime and once at night.
One resident we talked to complained that she was shocked to discover, (after signing the rental agreement, how many ugly cracks in the next building were visible in the daylight. During the visit, try to use the bathroom facilities to check out: 1) the water pressure, and 2) the flushing power of the loo. (You may laugh at that last one, but then you haven't heard as many complaints as we have.
Talking with existing tenants is always a good idea when making a choice. They will be the first to warn you off if things are not all that they seem. Oh, and don't forget to ask them if power cuts occur regularly. One man we interviewed had to get rid of his electric alarm clock, as the almost daily (yet very short) supply cuts saw him having to re-set it all the time.
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| Already a tenant, and not happy ? |
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There are basically two things to do if you are already in an apartment that doesn't suit. The obvious thing to do would be to move; the less obvious thing to do would be to stay and make the best of it. Here's a little advice on ways to make that possible.
Noisy neighbours?
Have a civil word with them about keeping the volume down, and if that doesn't work, make more noise that they do! The funny thing about noisy people is that they don't hear their own din, but seem to have unusually sensitive hearing when it comes to other people's noise.
Opening hours too short?
Does your gym, restaurant, pool, etc. close to early? Get all the tenants to sign a nicely-worded petition saying how you would all be happier if they would keep it open an extra hour, etc. This also works well for other services, like a request to erect a satellite dish on the top of building, for instance.
Need more living space?
Don't move out, move up (or down)! It is much easier to move to a larger apartment in the block than go to a new one, particularly if you like the building, its location and services, etc.
Increase in rent?
If your term is up and you wish to extend, chances are that the management or landlord might try to raise the rent. To keep them quiet over the short-term, tell them you are in the process of getting another apartment anyway and that you should really have had more notice. They don't usually mind if it is only for a while. For the long-term, you may consider moving if you find something more attractive for a lower rent.
Development spoiling the view?
Of course, this depends how badly it is spoilt, but for only slight disfigurements, you could find some attractive screens or blinds to hide the offending window. And if this doesn't do the trick, move! Don't forget though, in a city like Bangkok , where zoning is negligible, it could happen again easily, at your next apartment.
Equipment not kept in good repair?
Many apartments include a wide array of equipment, but not all of it is kept in good repair. If a quiet word with the management doesn't' work, tell them you would be happy to bring in your own technical specialist. |
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| Using feng shui to choose a place to live |
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Feng shui is a widely respected art associated with ancient Chinese culture. And though ancient, many modern Chinese are still quick to rush to its defense: they believe in it, that's why.
There are countless stories citing cases where lives were characterized by mishap after mishap, only to be reversed after the application of some simple feng shui-related changes to the home or work space. To avoid misfortune altogether, however, many Chinese and other believers make a point of considering some basic feng shui pointers before even choosing a place to live. |
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POSITIVE THINGS TO LOOK OUT FOR INCLUDE: |
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The following are some of the things you should avoid, if you wish to lead a healthy and prosperous life: |
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